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    Re: SHOWtime [New Atheism is the new Neocon]

    Post by Jec on Wed Feb 11, 2015 8:15 pm

    What drugs are you guys on?


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    Re: SHOWtime [New Atheism is the new Neocon]

    Post by Jec on Wed Feb 11, 2015 8:27 pm

    Reza Aslan being an idiot as usual.



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    Re: SHOWtime [New Atheism is the new Neocon]

    Post by Jet on Wed Feb 11, 2015 8:50 pm

    Jec wrote:Reza Aslan being an idiot as usual.

    sounds like hes being facetious. Hes making a parallel to how everyone expects muslims to condemn 'islamic violence' despite not having to. And the ignorance of those that demand condemnation when muslims do so regardless.

    In other words just because Richard dawkins is an atheist like the shooter he doesnt have to condemn the obviously condemnable.


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    Re: SHOWtime [New Atheism is the new Neocon]

    Post by Jec on Wed Feb 11, 2015 9:09 pm

    Jet wrote:
    Jec wrote:Reza Aslan being an idiot as usual.

    sounds like hes being facetious. Hes making a parallel to how everyone expects muslims to condemn 'islamic violence' despite not having to. And the ignorance of those that demand condemnation when muslims do so regardless.

    In other words just because Richard dawkins is an atheist like the shooter he doesnt have to condemn the obviously condemnable.

    The difference being that this wasn't in the name of atheism, unlike the attacks in the name of Islam, this guy shot them after an altercation of some parking spaces or something like that, he didn't shout, "I've avenged DARWIN!". The media is desperately trying to link the shooting to atheism (or Aslan's retarded "new atheism") rather than the US's retarded gun laws and spread of mental illness.

    Apparently, parking spot shootings are normal in the US....

    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2015/02/11/a-random-collection-of-shootings-over-parking-spaces-and-what-they-tell-us-about-violence-and-beliefs/


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    Re: SHOWtime [New Atheism is the new Neocon]

    Post by Jet on Wed Feb 11, 2015 9:37 pm

    Jec wrote:
    Jet wrote:
    Jec wrote:Reza Aslan being an idiot as usual.

    sounds like hes being facetious. Hes making a parallel to how everyone expects muslims to condemn 'islamic violence' despite not having to. And the ignorance of those that demand condemnation when muslims do so regardless.

    In other words just because Richard dawkins is an atheist like the shooter he doesnt have to condemn the obviously condemnable.

    The difference being that this wasn't in the name of atheism, unlike the attacks in the name of Islam, this guy shot them after an altercation of some parking spaces or something like that, he didn't shout, "I've avenged DARWIN!". The media is desperately trying to link the shooting to atheism (or Aslan's retarded "new atheism") rather than the US's retarded gun laws and spread of mental illness.
    I suspect reza doesnt really believe all atheists commit violence in the name of atheism. Hes being glib. Though I do think theres something to be said of the medias shaping of the image of domestic terrorism by refusing to call it as such when it happens in events like these, school shootings, bombing of the NAACP office a weeks ago, etc.

    However I also feel eri made an important point when he said that not all religious people- even ones from the same faith, adhere to the same values/tenets. Two christians might identity as such but have two complete different thoughts on a variety of issues. Its the same for jews, muslims and even atheists. To expect condemnation for an act another commits in the name of their ideology is to believe that all who identify with a group are the same.


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    Apparently, parking spot shootings are normal in the US....

    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2015/02/11/a-random-collection-of-shootings-over-parking-spaces-and-what-they-tell-us-about-violence-and-beliefs/

    From what I understand the 'parking lot motive' was taken from the wife of the shooter and adopted by the media. Shes already given the usual line "this should direct attention to mental health". As if to say no more reason to look here, there are no more factors to address. According to the vicims family however there was already history of previous confrontations including threats with a gun. The whole story isnt in yet but people shouldn't insult the victims grief by prematurely concluding this was all over a parking dispute


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    Re: SHOWtime [New Atheism is the new Neocon]

    Post by Jec on Wed Feb 11, 2015 9:48 pm

    No, the parking lot motive was taken from the police, not the wife of the shooting. Regardless, it's a heinous crime.

    Jet wrote:However I also feel eri made an important point when he said that not all religious people- even ones from the same faith, adhere to the same values/tenets. Two christians might identity as such but have two complete different thoughts on a variety of issues. Its the same for jews, muslims and even atheists. To expect condemnation for an act another commits in the name of their ideology is to believe that all who identify with a group are the same.

    That's true, although the difference are never significant. It's like a music genre... Dubsteb, Chillstep and Brostep have differences, yet their musical structure from DnB is the same. Not to mention in Islam's particular case, I never tire of good old fashion polling and statistics... the not-minority adhere to the same bad ideas.
    I wouldn't throw atheism in the ideology bus. Atheism is as much of an ideology or religion like abstinence is a sex position. The only assured similarity between two atheists is that they don't recognize divine beings.


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    Re: SHOWtime [New Atheism is the new Neocon]

    Post by Jet on Wed Feb 11, 2015 10:14 pm

    Jec wrote:No, the parking lot motive was taken from the police, not the wife of the shooting. Regardless, it's a heinous crime.
    Did the police not acquire that supposed motive from the would be ex- wife and her lawyers?

    Jet wrote:However I also feel eri made an important point when he said that not all religious people- even ones from the same faith, adhere to the same values/tenets. Two christians might identity as such but have two complete different thoughts on a variety of issues. Its the same for jews, muslims and even atheists. To expect condemnation for an act another commits in the name of their ideology is to believe that all who identify with a group are the same.
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    That's true, although the difference are never significant. It's like a music genre... Dubsteb, Chillstep and Brostep have differences, yet their musical structure from DnB is the same. Not to mention in Islam's particular case, I never tire of good old fashion polling and statistics... the not-minority adhere to the same bad ideas.
    I wouldn't throw atheism in the ideology bus. Atheism is as much of an ideology or religion like abstinence is a sex position. The only assured similarity between two atheists is that they don't recognize divine beings.
    I dont think the differences are insignificant. Theres a big difference between thinking someone should die and acting to actually kill them.

    As for atheism I agree its not an ideology. Im sure Reza knew that when he commented and was trolling to show the parallels posed to muslims post tragedy.


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    Re: SHOWtime [New Atheism is the new Neocon]

    Post by Jet on Fri Feb 13, 2015 1:49 am

    Wow I didnt know david oyelowo did VO work on star wars rebels. Surprised such a big name voices such a small role,


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    Re: SHOWtime [New Atheism is the new Neocon]

    Post by Jec on Fri Feb 13, 2015 10:14 am

    I think Constantine is struggling due to the infamous friday night timeslot.


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    Re: SHOWtime [New Atheism is the new Neocon]

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    Re: SHOWtime [New Atheism is the new Neocon]

    Post by Jet on Fri Feb 13, 2015 11:13 pm

    Agree with bills new rules. So much stupid shit on the news. As a Californian I feel good of him mocking the snow coverage specially...


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    Re: SHOWtime [New Atheism is the new Neocon]

    Post by Jec on Sat Feb 14, 2015 10:54 am

    Bill is such a twat when it comes to vaccines... "There has never been any long term studies comparing vaccinated vs unvaccinated people"

    Well yeah, because the unvaccinated tend to DIE.


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    Re: SHOWtime [New Atheism is the new Neocon]

    Post by Jet on Sat Feb 14, 2015 5:03 pm

    Well hes a comedian for a reason haha


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    Re: SHOWtime [New Atheism is the new Neocon]

    Post by Jec on Sat Feb 14, 2015 5:20 pm

    "measles is not that bad" oh my god....


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    Re: SHOWtime [New Atheism is the new Neocon]

    Post by Jet on Mon Feb 16, 2015 3:32 pm

    Of course common to the walking dead whenever a new black guy joins they kill an existing one


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    Re: SHOWtime [New Atheism is the new Neocon]

    Post by Jet on Mon Feb 16, 2015 10:14 pm



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9Mi17nLflY&feature=youtu.be

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    Re: SHOWtime [New Atheism is the new Neocon]

    Post by Eri on Tue Feb 17, 2015 12:47 pm

    house of cards soon thou!


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    Post by Jet on Tue Feb 17, 2015 1:53 pm

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    Re: SHOWtime [New Atheism is the new Neocon]

    Post by Eri on Tue Feb 17, 2015 2:48 pm

    primewire


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    Post by Jet on Tue Feb 17, 2015 8:58 pm

    House of cards....


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    Post by Eri on Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:12 pm

    primewire...


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    Re: SHOWtime [New Atheism is the new Neocon]

    Post by Jet on Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:41 pm



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UsHHOCH4q8&feature=youtu.be

    John oliver is excellent. His show tackles subjects usually not covered and with far more depth to his segments, Sucks that stewart is leaving but were good with oliver at the helm on hbo.

    The nightly show is starting to get stale though. I hope he changes his format up, panels are hit or miss most of the time.


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    Post by Jet on Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:16 pm

    Bruh I called saul. Second episode was much better


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    Post by Jet on Thu Feb 19, 2015 6:17 pm

    Eris favorite show, Vikings is back tn


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    Post by Eri on Thu Feb 19, 2015 6:31 pm

    naw b


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